In episode 150, Coffey talks with Suzanne Lucas about her Evil HR Lady articles from May.

They discuss the kerfuffle that arose after she released an article suggesting that employees who change their work location without coordinating with their employee should be fired; the tax and regulatory issues employers and employees face when working in other states or countries; a private wealth manager’s assertion that 45-minute reference checks are better than interviewing applicants; why employment verifications are important to help mitigate future liability; circumstances where attempts to conduct more-thorough reference checks are justified; and the risks of using AI in recruiting.

Here are some of the news items they discussed:

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Suzanne Lucas

Suzanne Lucas

Suzanne Lucas spent 10 years in corporate HR where she hired, fired, managed the numbers, and double-checked with the lawyers. She left the corporate world to advise people and companies on how to have the best Human Resources departments possible.

Suzanne integrates best practices with innovative ideas and humor, including using improv comedy as a tool for leadership development.

Suzanne’s writings have been published at CBS News, Inc. Magazine, Reader’s Digest, and many other sites. She’s been named a top influencer in HR. You can read her archives at or check out her Tedx Talk: Forget Talent and Get to Work.


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